Cal Rear Gear Swap

 

After having my Stone for a few years now, I can say that I was never truly happy with the stock 8:33 gearing. All my shift points where right where I was used to riding curves at and 5th gear was useless below 80mph. Actually looking back at historical Guzzi data, the 8:33 is a relatively new gear set, all the older model bikes and original California’s used the 7:33 or some other. Don’t know why Guzzi changed. I finally decided to make a change and go to a 7:33 drive.  I purchased a new gear set and ring gear bolts (www.mgcycle.com) and sent it all off to racer Charlie Cole to set up. He's THE GUY for setting up rear drives.  Before I sent it, I also applied a isotropic finish to my gears since I have access to such services (see http://www.taylor-race.com/isotropic.cfm - http://www.remchem.com/c.htm http://www.mrracingequipment.com/M&R%20Racing%20Equipment%20-%20rem.htm - http://216.219.233.39/text/109_1.pdf to educate yourself). The process is NOT 'snake oil'.  It works and is proven.  Gears finished in this method will heat up much less at initial break in and will run cooler over their life.  NASCAR teams have been doing this for years.  Charlie was much impressed by the finish - he said the gears had the best load trace he had ever seen.  I noticed after running about 30 miles that my rear drive seemed cooler.  It also cooled down VERY quickly after the bike set.

 

If you want a reasonably accurate speedo, you need to change the 5/10 speedo gear set out for a 5/11 set (14762510 www.mgcycle.com). You ONLY need to change the 10 tooth gear for the 11 tooth.  In order to get a nice straight shot at it, I removed the gas tank and air box.  Then, remove the speedo cable.  Stick an allen wrench in where the speedo cable was to hold the gear and remove the gear keeper (14mm wrench I think).  Now, lift the gear straight up and out.  If everything works out right, the hardened washer below the gear will either come out with the gear or stay where it should. Since I removed the air box, I could see straight down in and see that my washer was still there.  Slide in the new 11 tooth-er and put everything back together.  If the hardened washer is nowhere to be found, YOU MUST take apart the rear of the tranny and find it.  As far as speedo accuracy, mine was fairly good to start off with.  I went on a ride with some Honda guys in October with the 8:33 rear drive and 5/10 speedo gears and at each gas stop (100-120 miles), I was always with 1 to 2 miles of them on the odometer and out speeds we traveled the roads at also matched up pretty good. However, the 5/11 speedo gear set is really much better suited to an 8/37 rear drive. Going from the 8:33 to the 7:33 is a 12.5% change. The speedo gears went from a 5:10 to a 5:11. This is only 9.1% change in speedo cable RPM, thus there will be a about a 3.8% or so error in speedo reading - that is, it will read 60 MPH when you are doing around 57. Not too bad. If one went from an 8:33 to an 8:37; that is only a 10.8% change in gearing, which is closer to the change in the speedo gearing.

 

After my first ride, all I can say is the 7:33 drive ROCKS AND ROLLS. Pick up off the starting line is, ummm, spirited. I like the new found acceleration. Overall drive line seems smoother also. I'm happy with it. The bike should have been delivered with a 7:33.  Anyway, I went back out and compared the distance I rode with my truck odometer, and in one stretch, the truck said 6.3 miles and the bike said 6.6 - or about a 4.8% difference which is close to the predicted error of around 3.8%. I followed a guy on another stretch for several miles. My speedo rang up just at 55 miles an hour. At a stop light I asked him what he was doing, and he said just a

touch over 50. With the 4.8% error I figured from comparing odometers between the bike and truck, my 55 bike speedo means I was going about 52mph, which jives with the guy who said he was doing a touch over 50. Needless to say, it's close enough for me! Anywhere from 1 mph to 5mph off depending how fast. I roared along at an indicated 85 (probably actually speed of touch over 80) in 5th, and it was smooth as glass on the highway.  Uphill corners that had previously given me problems because of shift points were a breeze.

 

Note! THIS IS NOT A CHEAP MOD.  The new gear sets go for over $400, the ring gear bolts were $90 or so, the speedo gears were $70 or so, and then I had to pay Charlie some also. ALSO.... the 2002 and up model year bikes use different ring gear carriers because of modifications to fit a wider swingarm The drive splines for the ring gear carrier stick out of the rear drive farther.  If you use a rear drive off of a pre 2002 bike, you MAY have reduced contact between the rear drive splines and the rear wheel splines.

 

Before I did this, I hooked up with a guy thru a Ducati site that does a real wiz-bang computer gearing analysis.  I have attached my discussions with him…

 

Gearing Guru  Performance Modeling Gearing Recommendation

 

For: Jeffrey Brannen

 

Date: 12-07-04

 

Vehicle: 2002 Moto Guzzi California Stone – modified engine

 

 

This report is based on your questionnaire answers:

 

Tell us what kind of rider you are:

 

          My motorcycle is mainly used for commuting on the highway to work and running the twisty roads on the weekend trying to keep pace with a friends Monster 900.  I ride as hard as this bike will let me, usually not breaking the law by more than  15mph or so, sometimes more (like 55-60 in 35 on West Virginia mountain roads).  My usual cruising shift points are (shift by speedo as I have no tach):

 

          1st to 2nd  - 25mph

          2nd to 3rd – 40 to 42 mph

          3rd to 4th – 60-62 mph

          4th to 5th – 75 to 80 mph

 

Of course, these shift points are done using an Italian speedometer that are known to me 5%-7% off or so (are Ducati’s speedos inaccurate too?).  I usually cruise on the freeway at 60mph in 3rd hear or 75mph in 4th as those are good smooth spots for the motor.  I rarely see 5th gear.  It will cruise in 5th around 75mph, but roll-on performance from 75 in 5th gear is weak.  Same with 4th – it will cruise at 55 to 60mph in fourth on the open road, but roll on from that point is weak.  I feel much of this is due to the flat/dip in the engines mid-range which is inherent to all Moto Guzzi models. 

 

What make and model of motorcycle do you want this analysis done for?

 

          2002 Moto Guzzi California Stone

 

          PRIMARY RATIO        17/21

          1st GEAR                  14/28

          2ND GEAR                 18/25

          3RD GEAR                 21/22

          4TH GEAR                 23/20

          5TH GEAR                 28/21

 

          STOCK REAR            8/33

 

          AFTERMARKET GEAR IN CONSIDERATION    7/33

         

Most guys opt for a 7/33 gear if they change.  Others available (but hard to find) are 8/35 and 8/37.  These 2 gear sets are hard to find, that is why most go to the 7/33.  Is is readily available and is made in sets to fit every rear end.

 

          Bore: 92mm

          Stroke: 80mm

          1064cc 90 degree V-twin mounted transverse in frame. Air cooled, pushrod motor.

 

 

Has the motorcycle been modified in any way that affects aerodynamics, weight, or rotational inertia?

(e.g. added fairing, aftermarket exhaust, lightened flywheel or wheels) If so, provide detailed data.

 

            The machine has a small windscreen and luggage. The luggage is removed most of the time.  I know that your acceleration figures will not be exact for my machine because you do not have data for it.  Here is what I have managed to find (for bike with no luggage):

 

            Motorcyclist reports  ¼ mile in 13.14 seconds at 98.64 mph, top speed 119mph, 0-60 in 4.87 seconds

            Cycle World reports ¼ mile in 13.48 seconds at 97.66 mph, top speed 119mph, 0-60 in 4.6 seconds

 

            Reported weights:

            Motorcyclist 543 lbs no gas

            Cycle Canada 549 lbs WITH gas??

 

            Rake 27 degrees

            Trail 5.5”

 

            Rear Tire  140/80-17.  I measured the circumference at 80.375”

 

            See attaché pics.  Not shown in the pics is that I am now running dual disks on the front.  One Brembo was OK, but 2 are even better!!

 

            These times were for stock bikes.  I have performance mods that add about 5-7hp/5-7ft-lbs over the machines they tested If you can estimate the aerodynamics to get your simulation close to these times, that would probably work.  The real  thing to see is the comparison between final drive ratios, as that is the desired outcome of this, not accurate 0-60 and ¼ miles times.

 

Are you currently running stock gearing (for sure?) or have you already modified it somewhat?

If so, what front and rear sprockets are you currently running?

 

          This is a shaft drive bike.  I am running the stock ring and pinion which is an 8/33

 

We use "stock" rear wheel power curves unless you provide a dyno curve for your specific motorcycle. If you have modified the engine, please attach a copy of your dyno data (from a custom dyno run or from a manufacturer's website for example) to your reply. Does this apply to you?

 

          I have attached an Excel spreadsheet that lists the hp and torque vs. rpm in a tabular format.  This was a 4th gear run on a Dynojet Model 250i.  It also shows the elapsed time during the run.

 

What do you weigh, including the gear you typically wear? (caution: fudging this answer limits the accuracy of our recommendations. Also don't assume that your gear is light. Most is NOT. 10 lb or more is not unusual.)

 

            I weight about 157lbs.  10 lbs of gear would put me in at 167.  Figure 170lbs total for sure.

 

Do you want the weight of a passenger to be part of the analysis and recommendations?

If so, what does he/she weigh (We are not responsible for your significant other killing you for answering honestly)?

 

          No passenger.  No luggage.

 

What is your target usage for this motorcycle? (the more focused or more general you are, the more focused or general our recommendations will be)

 

          Investigating gearing for better backroad blasting.  As it stands, the shift points for this bike listed above are right at where I want to run most curves at.  This creates problems getting thru corners smoothly.  My max freeway cruise is usually 75-80 because tickets are expensive.  Most of the time I stick it in 4th and run along at an indicated 75mph.  I only hit 5th gear and run 80+ when I really need to make time like when going on a long trip, but 80-85 is tops, and rarely seen.  I cruised at 90-95mph ONCE in 5th gear.  This was a real sweetspot for the machine, but my bank account could not have afforded a ticket for 30 over.

 

What are your objectives in requesting gearing analysis and recommendations? Select those that apply from the list below and PRIORITIZE them (1,2,3 etc). Note that some will be inconsistent with others, so don't pick "all" of them! e.g maximized top speed and improved acceleration work against each other!

 

 

3 - Improve ability to tour with luggage in hilly or windy conditions?

1 - Improve throttle response and nimbleness at low and city speeds?

5 - Improve throttle response at highway speeds?

4 - Compress top speed down to provide more choices of gears at moderate speeds?

2 - Improve acceleration up to moderate highway speeds (0 to 80mph)?

 

 

What is the highest cruising speed you normally maintain for more than a few minutes at a time?

 

Figure 82MPH.  5th gear is highest.  Normal is 75 in 4th gear.

 

How hilly is it where you normally ride?

 

          Ohio has some nice hills.  When I go on weekenders to west Virginia, the hills really come into play.  Switchbacks going up hills tend to be a problem with getting the machine in the right gear.  The people I whip on going down hill usually make up ground when uphill curves are involved.  Probably due to my riding style not fitting where the gear selections are.  Change gears or change riding style??

 

Do you often ride at higher elevations (e.g. in the  mountains)?

 

          The highest elevation between Ohio and West Virginia is MAYBE 5,000 feet. Not really that high.

 

 

 

 

Recommendations & Comments:

 

Using the data you sent, I was able to downgrade your dyno curve to what a stock one would look like, and then, by iteratively trying different combinations of Cd and frontal area, I was able to fairly closely match the 2 magazine test results you quoted, using a “standard 160 lb rider”, although I think the bike should have had a slightly greater terminal velocity if the stock bike is really within 5 to 7 horsepower of your modified engine bike.

 

Then, I plugged in YOUR actual weight, and your bike’s dyno curve, and ran 4 simulations using ALL four of the available shaft drive gearing options for your bike.

 

I obviously was unable to “optimize” your gearing, because ONLY these 4 options are available, but the 4 simulations show you your available choices, and I also give you my comments on each!

 

One important comment: On most bikes these days, the minimum rpm that the engines can be operated at are usually 3000 to 3500 rpm. Your Guzzi is very unusual, in that it accepted full throttle on the dyno at rpm as alow as 2200. I have therefore used 2200 as the minimum rpm in 1st gear, and that artificially inflates your quarter mile times and zero to x mph times above the theoretical “perfect rider” times, as a magazine tester would rev the engine to at least 3500 (like I did when I was working to duplicate the magazine results in my software) and slip the clutch to get the lowest times. You would not do this on this street, AND if I simulated this, it would also mask the impact of the actual gearing changes to some extent, since slipping the clutch defeats the gearing via an abusive technique. So, your bike would actually “test” quite a bit faster at a dragstrip.

 

 

Pages 6 & 7:  33/8 Gearing (Stock)

This is the baseline that all gearing changes will be compared against. It is VERY “European” in its outlook, as 5th gear is really not very usable at legal U.S. highway speeds.

Note the following:

RPM at 60 mph (want to keep this to a sensible rpm): 3013 (pretty low, even for this low rpm engine)

HP @ 60 mph (Horsepower available in top gear at 60 mph - without a downshift): 32 (not bad)

0 to 80 mph (Time required to accelerate from 0 to 80. Good measure of “street” acceleration): 6.97

Quarter Mile Sec (Time required to run the ¼ mile. Note! This is an idealized ¼ mile run with perfect rider technique AND shift times = zero seconds, in order to show effects of pure gearing changes with no rider technique variables. An actual ¼ mile run would be slower): 13.21

Top speed: 124 (IF the stock bike is actually 5 to 7 hp weaker & does 119, you should do 124 under ideal conditions)

RPM at top speed (measure of how ideally the bike is geared for top speed specifically): 6227

Maximum Gs (maximum acceleration rate achieved): 0.79g (ok but not great)

Avg HP avail 0 – 100 (Average power available in accelerating hard 0 to 100 MPH): 51

RPM at 80 MPH (How high does the engine need to rev at 80 MPH cruising in top gear with this gearing): 4018 (ridiculously low for this engine – no wonder you use 3rd and 4th instead!)

Crawl speed (Lowest speed in 1st gear without engine discomfort – let’s you avoid using clutch slipping): 16

HP available at different speeds in top gear (power available without downshifting): Examine & compare the rightmost table on each data page! See how re-gearing makes a BIG difference. Note that with stock gearing, at 80 mph in top gear you have 43 horsepower without a downshift.

 

How to interpret the “Actual versus Ideal Force” Graph:

 

This graph compares your actual gearing to “perfect” gearing that would have your engine operating at its peak power rpm no matter what the road speed is.

 

The lightweight curved line represents the perfect gearing. It is truncated at low speeds because your tire can only transmit so much force before it starts to slip instead of grip. Any force above this truncated line is superfluous at these speeds.

 

The heavier line represents your actual gearing. You can never make it “perfect” unless you have an infinitely variable transmission. The sharp drops in this line represent shift points where you shift into the next higher gear because it provides more force at that speed than the previous gear. The force at each such point is well below the perfect line because your engine rpm has dropped as a result of the shift. However, if you had not shifted, it would be lower yet. Our computer software calculates the best shift point automatically.

 

At really low speeds, the thick (actual) line is well below the thin (perfect) line, because you are running at low rpm in 1st gear. You can raise the actual force to the traction limit by slipping the clutch as you apply lots of throttle, but that wears your clutch quickly and introduces a dangerous lack of control for street use. A drag racer would use this technique to overcome the “hole” in tractive force at low speed.

 

The thick line goes horizontal at the speed at which your bike’s available power is no longer high enough to allow the bike to accelerate (i.e. your top speed), or when you bump into the rev limiter.

 

The big “hole” or “gap” right after the shift to 2nd gear is normal for virtually any bike. The motorcycle designer tries to keep the top few gears close together, while giving you a low enough first gear to get rolling from a dead stop where power from the engine is very limited, and you take the hit on that 1st to 2nd shift.

 

 

In your case, note the following:

The gearing for 2 throgh 5th is really excellent at keeping you right at the theoretical limit line. However, your tractive force is very weak in 1st gear -  nowhere NEAR the traction limit, so don’t worry about breaking the rear tire loose under clean and dry road conditions. Your 1st to 2nd gap is pretty normal. I would like to move it to a lower mph range, so that its impact on acceleration is lessened (the air drag forces at lower speeds are MUCH lower, and therefore the bike can pull its way through the gap easier).

 

 

Pages 7 & 8: 35/8 Gearing

This is a surprising amount better performance, given the relatively small percentage change in gearing ratio!

RPM at 60 mph: 3196 (still very modest)

HP @ 60 mph: 34 (6% better than stock)

0 to 80 mph: 6.72 (0.25 second and 3.5% better than stock)

Quarter Mile Sec: 13.01 (0.20 sec better than stock)

Top speed: 123 (lose 1 mph)

RPM at top speed: 6551

Maximum Gs: 0.85 (8% better!)

Avg HP avail 0 – 100 mph: 52 (tiny bit better)

RPM at 80 MPH: 4261 (still VERY low)

Crawl speed: 15

HP available at different speeds in top gear: Now have 48 versus 43 hp at 80 mph – 12% more!

Tractive force graph:

The gap has been moved to a lower speed range where the bike can pull through it a little easier. Not enough though; we can do more with one of the other gearing combinations.

 

 

Pages 8 & 9: 37/8 Gearing

This is quite good from an improvement perspective. Some BIG gains in real world useful performance. And, close enough to 33/7 below to make it a viable option if available at a good deal price compared to 33/7.

RPM at 60 mph: 3378 (still very modest for this engine)

HP @ 60 mph: 35 (over 9% better than stock)

0 to 80 mph: 6.49 (7% better than stock)

Quarter Mile Sec: 12.84 (This is a stunning 0.37 sec quicker than stock!)

Top speed: 121 (lost 3 mph versus stock)

RPM at top speed: 6800 (I set the software to treat 6800 as the rev limit, since that is where the dyno cut it too)

Maximum Gs: 0.90 (14% better than stock – you would really feel this improvement!)

Avg HP avail 0 – 100 mph: 53 (4% better than tock)

RPM at 80 MPH: 4505 (still VERY low, but at least better)

Crawl speed: 15 (very attractively low. No clutch slipping required at low speeds around town)

HP available at different speeds in top gear: Note that you now have 52 vs 43 hp at 80 mph – 21% more

Tractive force graph:

The curve is actually starting to get at least nearer the traxction limit in 1 st gear, and the gap has moved further down the speed range.

 

 

Pages 10 & 11: 33/7 Gearing

THIS is the best option I think, especially for someone like you who rarely goes really fast on the highway.

RPM at 60 mph: 3444 (This is getting towards respectable!)

HP @ 60 mph: 36 (12.5% better than stock, and comparable to other big bore bikes)

0 to 80 mph: 6.43 (8% better than stock)

Quarter Mile Sec: 12.79 (This is a fabulous 0.42 sec faster than stock. That’s HUGE)

Top speed: 119 (loss of 5 mph)

RPM at top speed: rev limit

Maximum Gs: 0.92 (16.5% better than stock!!!)

Avg HP avail 0 – 100 mph: 53

RPM at 80 MPH: 4591 (still ridiculously low for your needs, but acceptable)

Crawl speed: 14 (THIS is GOOD!)

HP available at different speeds in top gear: Now 54 vs 43 hp at 80 mph – 26% better than stock!

Tractive force graph:

Well, we’ll evidently NEVER break traction with this bike, but we gave it a good try! And, the gap is now at lower mph yet, reducing the effort the engine needs to make to break through it.

 

 

 

Caution! Caution! Caution!

Any gearing change that improves acceleration and response also increases tendency of the bike to wheelie. Unicycles do not steer well and do not brake at all well, as most of your braking ability comes from the front wheel.

 

A re-geared bike can also break traction easier, as there is more torque being applied between the tire and the road surface. This is especially possible when the road is wet or has dirt on it.

 

If you implement any of these gearing changes, be very careful in where and under what conditions you apply throttle either suddenly or greatly!!

 

Ride carefully, as you are irreplaceable, and you would be missed.

 

Jim G

 

 


 

2002 Moto Guzzi Stone

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Data Used:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rider weight

170

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vehicle weight

555

with 2 gal gas

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Weight totalbefore mods

725

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Total modded weight

725

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Power factor used

1.00

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

software version

1s

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Final ratio

4.125

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rear sprocket:

33

Front:

8

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Modifications:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Item

Modded?

Inertia effect?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rear wheel

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Frint wheel

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sprocket

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chain

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Clutch

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Flywheel

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Front brake rotors

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rear brake rotors

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Other

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ttoal diff in weight

0.0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

HP available at different

Calculated Results:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

speeds in top gear

 

RPM @ 60 MPH in top gear

3013

 

Maximum Gs

0.79

 

HP @ 45

16

 

 

HP @ 60 MPH in top gear

32

 

Avg HPavail 0-60

41

 

HP @ 50

24

 

 

0 to 30 MPH

 

2.43

 

Avg Hpavail 60-100

66

 

HP @ 55

28

 

 

0 to 45 MPH

 

3.33

 

Avg Hpavail 0-100

51

 

HP @ 60

32

 

 

0 to 60 MPH

 

4.56

 

 

 

 

 

 

HP @ 65

34

 

 

0 to 80 MPH

 

6.97

 

Avg Hpavail = average available

HP @ 70

37

 

 

0 to 100 MPH

 

11.14

 

horsepower in the speed range given.

HP @ 80

43

 

 

Quarter Mile Sec

 

13.21

 

 

 

 

 

 

HP @ 90

52

 

 

Quarter Mile MPH

 

106

 

Gear at top speed

5

 

HP @ 100

61

 

 

Top Speed

 

124

 

RPM at top speed

6227

 

HP @110

66

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actual Speed vs RPM in Each Gear

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gear

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1

2

3

4

5

6

 

Crawl mph:

16

 

 

MPH

10

1339

930

701

582

502

502

 

 

 

 

 

 

20

2678

1860

1403

1165

1004

1004

 

 

 

 

 

 

30

4018

2790

2104

1747

1507

1507

 

 

 

 

 

 

40

5357

3720

2806

2329

2009

2009

 

 

 

 

 

 

50

6696

4650

3507

2911

2511

2511

 

 

 

 

 

 

60

 

5580

4209

3494

3013

3013

 

 

 

 

 

 

70

 

6510

4910

4076

3515

3515

 

 

 

 

 

 

80

 

 

5612

4658

4018

4018

 

 

 

 

 

 

90

 

 

6313

5240

4520

4520

 

 

 

 

 

 

100

 

 

 

5823

5022

5022

 

 

 

 

 

 

110

 

 

 

6405

5524

5524

 

 

 

 

 

 

120

 

 

 

 

6026

6026

 

 

 

 

 

 

130

 

 

 

 

6528

6528

 

 

 

 

 

 

140

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

150

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

160

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

170

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

180

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 


 

2002 Moto Guzzi Stone

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Data Used:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rider weight

170

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vehicle weight

555

with 2 gal gas

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Weight totalbefore mods

725

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Total modded weight

725

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Power factor used

1.00

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

software version

1s

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Final ratio

4.375

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rear sprocket:

35

Front:

8

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Modifications:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Item

Modded?

Inertia effect?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rear wheel

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Frint wheel

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sprocket

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chain

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Clutch

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Flywheel

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Front brake rotors

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rear brake rotors

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Other

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ttoal diff in weight

0.0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

HP available at different

Calculated Results:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

speeds in top gear

 

RPM @ 60 MPH in top gear

3196

 

Maximum Gs

0.85

 

HP @ 45

20

 

 

HP @ 60 MPH in top gear

34

 

Avg HPavail 0-60

43

 

HP @ 50

26

 

 

0 to 30 MPH

 

2.24

 

Avg Hpavail 60-100

66

 

HP @ 55

31

 

 

0 to 45 MPH

 

3.09

 

Avg Hpavail 0-100

52

 

HP @ 60

34

 

 

0 to 60 MPH

 

4.31

 

 

 

 

 

 

HP @ 65

36

 

 

0 to 80 MPH

 

6.72

 

Avg Hpavail = average available

HP @ 70

39

 

 

0 to 100 MPH

 

10.87

 

horsepower in the speed range given.

HP @ 80

48

 

 

Quarter Mile Sec

 

13.01

 

 

 

 

 

 

HP @ 90

57

 

 

Quarter Mile MPH

 

106

 

Gear at top speed

5

 

HP @ 100

64

 

 

Top Speed

 

123

 

RPM at top speed

6551

 

HP @110

66

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actual Speed vs RPM in Each Gear

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gear

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1

2

3

4

5

6

 

Crawl mph:

15

 

 

MPH

10

1420

986

744

618

533

533

 

 

 

 

 

 

20

2841

1973

1488

1235

1065

1065

 

 

 

 

 

 

30

4261

2959

2232

1853

1598

1598

 

 

 

 

 

 

40

5681

3945

2976

2470

2131

2131

 

 

 

 

 

 

50

 

4932

3720

3088

2663

2663

 

 

 

 

 

 

60

 

5918

4464

3705

3196

3196

 

 

 

 

 

 

70

 

 

5208

4323

3728

3728

 

 

 

 

 

 

80

 

 

5952

4940

4261

4261

 

 

 

 

 

 

90

 

 

6696

5558

4794

4794

 

 

 

 

 

 

100

 

 

 

6175

5326

5326

 

 

 

 

 

 

110

 

 

 

6793

5859

5859

 

 

 

 

 

 

120

 

 

 

 

6392

6392

 

 

 

 

 

 

130

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

140

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

150

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

160

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

170

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

180

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 


 

2002 Moto Guzzi Stone

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Data Used:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rider weight

170

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vehicle weight

555

with 2 gal gas

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Weight totalbefore mods

725

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Total modded weight

725

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Power factor used

1.00

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

software version

1s

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Final ratio

4.625

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rear sprocket:

37

Front:

8

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Modifications:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Item

Modded?

Inertia effect?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rear wheel

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Frint wheel

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sprocket

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chain

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Clutch

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Flywheel

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Front brake rotors

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rear brake rotors

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Other

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ttoal diff in weight

0.0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

HP available at different

Calculated Results:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

speeds in top gear

 

RPM @ 60 MPH in top gear

3378

 

Maximum Gs

0.90

 

HP @ 45

24

 

 

HP @ 60 MPH in top gear

35

 

Avg HPavail 0-60

44

 

HP @ 50

29

 

 

0 to 30 MPH

 

2.07

 

Avg Hpavail 60-100

66

 

HP @ 55

33

 

 

0 to 45 MPH

 

2.89

 

Avg Hpavail 0-100

53

 

HP @ 60

35

 

 

0 to 60 MPH

 

4.09

 

 

 

 

 

 

HP @ 65

38

 

 

0 to 80 MPH

 

6.49

 

Avg Hpavail = average available

HP @ 70

42

 

 

0 to 100 MPH

 

10.65

 

horsepower in the speed range given.

HP @ 80

52

 

 

Quarter Mile Sec

 

12.84

 

 

 

 

 

 

HP @ 90

61

 

 

Quarter Mile MPH

 

106

 

Gear at top speed

5

 

HP @ 100

66

 

 

Top Speed

 

121

 

RPM at top speed

6800

 

HP @110

66

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actual Speed vs RPM in Each Gear

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gear

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1

2

3

4

5

6

 

Crawl mph:

15

 

 

MPH

10

1502

1043

787

653

563

563

 

 

 

 

 

 

20

3003

2085

1573

1306

1126

1126

 

 

 

 

 

 

30

4505

3128

2360

1958

1689

1689

 

 

 

 

 

 

40

6006

4171

3146

2611

2252

2252

 

 

 

 

 

 

50

 

5214

3933

3264

2815

2815

 

 

 

 

 

 

60

 

6256

4719

3917

3378

3378

 

 

 

 

 

 

70

 

 

5506

4570

3941

3941

 

 

 

 

 

 

80

 

 

6292

5223

4505

4505

 

 

 

 

 

 

90

 

 

 

5875

5068

5068

 

 

 

 

 

 

100

 

 

 

6528

5631

5631

 

 

 

 

 

 

110

 

 

 

 

6194

6194

 

 

 

 

 

 

120

 

 

 

 

6757

6757

 

 

 

 

 

 

130

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

140

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

150

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

160

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

170

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

180

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 


 

2002 Moto Guzzi Stone

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Data Used:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rider weight

170

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vehicle weight

555

with 2 gal gas

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Weight totalbefore mods

725

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Total modded weight

725

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Power factor used

1.00

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

software version

1s

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Final ratio

4.714

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rear sprocket:

33

Front:

7

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Modifications:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Item

Modded?

Inertia effect?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rear wheel

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Frint wheel

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sprocket

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chain

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Clutch

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Flywheel

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Front brake rotors

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rear brake rotors

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Other

No

 

No

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ttoal diff in weight

0.0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

HP available at different

Calculated Results:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

speeds in top gear

 

RPM @ 60 MPH in top gear

3444

 

Maximum Gs

0.92

 

HP @ 45

25

 

 

HP @ 60 MPH in top gear

36

 

Avg HPavail 0-60

44

 

HP @ 50

30

 

 

0 to 30 MPH

 

2.02

 

Avg Hpavail 60-100

66

 

HP @ 55

34

 

 

0 to 45 MPH

 

2.83

 

Avg Hpavail 0-100

53

 

HP @ 60

36

 

 

0 to 60 MPH

 

4.03

 

 

 

 

 

 

HP @ 65

39

 

 

0 to 80 MPH

 

6.43

 

Avg Hpavail = average available

HP @ 70

43

 

 

0 to 100 MPH

 

10.59

 

horsepower in the speed range given.

HP @ 80

54

 

 

Quarter Mile Sec

 

12.79

 

 

 

 

 

 

HP @ 90

62

 

 

Quarter Mile MPH

 

106

 

Gear at top speed

5

 

HP @ 100

66

 

 

Top Speed

 

119

 

RPM at top speed

6800

 

HP @110

66

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actual Speed vs RPM in Each Gear

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gear

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1

2

3

4

5

6

 

Crawl mph:

14

 

 

MPH

10

1530

1063

802

665

574

574

 

 

 

 

 

 

20

3061

2126

1603

1331

1148

1148

 

 

 

 

 

 

30

4591

3189

2405

1996

1722

1722

 

 

 

 

 

 

40

6122

4251

3207

2662

2296

2296

 

 

 

 

 

 

50

 

5314

4008

3327

2870

2870

 

 

 

 

 

 

60

 

6377

4810

3993

3444

3444

 

 

 

 

 

 

70

 

 

5612

4658

4018

4018

 

 

 

 

 

 

80

 

 

6413

5323

4591

4591

 

 

 

 

 

 

90

 

 

 

5989

5165

5165

 

 

 

 

 

 

100

 

 

 

6654

5739

5739

 

 

 

 

 

 

110

 

 

 

 

6313

6313

 

 

 

 

 

 

120

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

130

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

140

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

150

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

160

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

170

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

180